L and I have been in full wedding planning mode since he proposed. Really, just trying to find a venue and secure a date. That’s all I really care about at this point. We’re hoping for the Sunday of Labor Day weekend to give people an extra day to travel and to take advantage of the lower Sunday rates all at the same time.
I have researched and gathered pricing and availability information from everywhere in the Charlotte area. And then I did the same for the Wilmington/beach area since we want to consider that as well. Then, together, we looked at the information and the websites in detail and created a ranked spreadsheet of the different venues. We nixed any that were just too expensive and then decided on which ones we needed/wanted to look at, etc.
Last Sunday, we drove around a bunch of places doing drive bys and were able to cut a few more off the list just based on looks, etc. Then I made appointments for us to meet with some of the venues. This past Friday we went to four places, another one on Saturday and yesterday we drove to Wilmington (and back in one day – a little more than 3 hours each way) to hit a small bridal show and visit 3 other venues, plus check out some other things in the area.
Meanwhile, we also put together our guest list. It started off at close to 250 people, which is just way too high for the budget that we have. We are pretty much splitting the cost of this wedding with my parents. About 99% of our half is coming from L. It doesn’t help that I don’t have a job right now. Even so, we have about $5000 more to spend than we originally thought we would and I am very grateful to my parents for that. They are contributing a significantly greater amount than I thought they would be able to.
So we tried to cut our list down and got it to about 200. Now, going by the approximately-80%-of-your-guest-list-will-actually-come-to-your-wedding rule, we were at about 160. As we continue to look at venues, we were estimating about 130-150 guests. If it were in Wilmington, it would probably be on the lower end of that, but can’t count on that. Going through all the information from all of these venues, it’s becoming real that we can barely afford the 150 number. It would leave very little room for anything else.
I am fine with doing a lot DIY things and actually look forward to it. I pride myself on being a bargain shopper and know that will help things in the long run. The only thing I want to splurge on is photography. I would rather have a smaller wedding and have it at a nicer location or not have to worry about scraping pennies together, rather than having a huge guest list. L says that he wants a big party – the ceremony is important to him too – but he is looking forward to a big celebration with friends. He too, says that he’s fine with having a smaller guest list, but this is where it started.
As we were driving around in between appointments discussing one of the venues, I mentioned how we need to cut the list even more because I was afraid this was going to very difficult to afford this with the number that we have now. This eventually led to him saying how he can’t help it that his family is so much larger than mine and that he’s inviting hardly any friends because of that and he has cut so many people off the list that he wants to invite. He basically made me feel horribly for this and said how I’m putting this all on him and blaming him because his family is so big, etc.
At the same time, it’s not my fault that my family is smaller, allowing me to invite more friends. But let’s be clear, I really don’t have a ton of friends. I don’t know nearlyas many people as he does. And, based on the names I’ve ssen on the guest list, I really don’t know who all these people are that he wants to invite that he can’t. He says that right now his list is family and close friends and that’s it, but in my opinion, that’s what a wedding should be.
Sure, if we had 30 or 40 or $50,000 to spend on a wedding, we could invite more people who were casual friends, etc., but we don’t. Which means that we need to invite those that matter the most to us. The ones who you wouldn’t want to miss out on this special and important day.
Yesterday was our first, and what I hope is our only, fight about this process. He said that I should give him some leeway since he is paying for half of this wedding which I should just consider would be covering his large guest list. That really hurt my feelings because he always said that would be ‘our’ contribution. I know it’s his money, but it just really, really hurt my feelings the way he said it. He also through at me, that I “should see the list with all the people on it that he wants to invite and can’t. Then [I] would really see how many people [he has] cut.” And that he has cut and cut and cut and he just can’t get rid of any other people. I asked who all this family was and if it were necessary to invite others who were not considered immediately family since the only family I’m inviting is immediate. He said they are family and they have to be invited and that his mom said so too. It doesn’t help that his sister is getting married a few months before us. I asked if he reminded his mom that our budget is likely significantly less than what his sister’s is and he said he had.
In additon to our individual lists, we also have a mutual list made up of all friends. This list is not small by any means and I reminded him of this when he said that he has hardly any friends invited. I also reminded him that there was a good chunk of people on my list that should technically be on the mutual list and that he was the one who pointed that out when we created the list. If this was how he wanted to compare lists, then I was going to move those people to the mutual list.
When we got home last night, that’s why I did. I moved the mutals on my list to the mutual list and then looked at the numbers again. On his individual list, 39% of the guests were in the ‘friend’ category. On my list, 24% of the guests were in the ‘friend’ category. When I pointed this out, he said it was only because I moved a bunch of mine to the mutual list. I then reminded him, once again, that he was the one who said they should be on the mutual list.
After that, I cut even more people from my list. People that I want to be there. Some that I want to be there, but am pretty sure won’t be able to come due to distance and finances. But I cut them, since he has “made the sacrafices with this guest list.” He made a few moves and we got the total number down from 200 to 160. This made me much happier and at this point we were much more civil.
But the whole argument that happened the few hours before really annoyed me, hurt me and angered me.
First of all, I refuse to be miserable during this process. I have seen how this is frustrating me some to not be able to find someplace that we can easily afford. Perhaps now that we’ve cut the list, this will help. Based on a few prices we’ve found, this cut can save us up to $3000 which is a huge amount of money. Second, not only do I not want to be miserable, I do NOT want to argue during this process.
Sure there has been a disappointment, he doesn’t like a venue that I LOVE and think would be perfect. But we don’t argue about it. If he doesn’t like it, fine. There are other places that we both like. Am I disappointed? Absolutely. Do I think it’s a good deal and would allow us to shop around for other components and potentially save money? Yes. But I don’t want to choose a venue that he doesn’t like just because I do. Long before we ever got engaged, I told him that I didn’t want to do this planning by myself (not saying that my friends and mom wouldn’t help me), but that I wanted to do it together because it is OUR wedding.
As far as the guest list goes, he says we are on the same page. Especially with the whole would-rather-have-a-smaller-but-nicer-wedding-rather-than-a-larger-but-not-as-nice-wedding. But when it comes down to it, that’s now how he made it out. And whether I “took it the wrong way” or not, that’s how it came across.
I think we’re ok with where we are now with the guest list. I’m still very sad with three of the people (plus their husbands) that I had to cut from my list, but perhaps they can take the place of a few people I know are not able to attend.
I just want to have this part done. The venue. And the damn ceremony location – meaning, decide if it’s going to be in the same place or not and if it’s not where the heck it will be since L doesn’t want a church wedding.
Then we can move on to the fun stuff.
































